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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

The Ten Year War with Jonathan Cohn

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

Msnbc, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Government, Politics, Chris Hayes, Why Is This Happening?, Withpod, Versant, Ms Now, News, Society & Culture, Versant Media

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2021

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In “The Ten Year War: Obamacare and the Unfinished Crusade for Universal Coverage,” journalist Jonathan Cohn writes about the battle over healthcare and takes readers into the impetus for, history of, and current state of the Affordable Care Act. He joins to discuss what’s missing, inflection points, the role of bipartisanship, and what the ACA means for Americans trying to navigate an increasingly complex system. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads. You'll also get exclusive bonus content from this and other shows. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0

We are still the only country in the developed world that doesn't have truly universal healthcare.

0:05.7

We have many millions of people who do not have insurance.

0:09.2

We have many millions of people who have insurance, but they still can't pay their medical bills,

0:13.9

right?

0:14.9

Because they got these high deductibles.

0:15.9

The premiums are really eating into their wages.

0:19.2

We have people who they have to, you know, they have to fight insurance bureaucracies to

0:22.8

get treatment, they deal with mind-boggling level of hassle.

0:27.6

Hello, and welcome to Wise This Happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

0:33.7

One of the weirdest things about the politics of the current moment to me is how the American

0:42.3

right has evolved in such a way that it ceases to have anything to say about the major questions

0:49.6

of political economy in our time.

0:51.9

What am I mean by that?

0:53.9

I came of age at a time when there was a certain kind of ascendant intellectual right, people

0:58.2

call it neoliberalism.

1:00.0

It was embodied in figures like Friedrich Hayek and then Milton Friedman and then in figures

1:04.8

like Reagan and Thatcher that made these arguments about markets versus the state about big

1:11.5

government and about the need for smaller government and how markets were both better for

1:16.7

human flourishing as a kind of moral and philosophical matter and better for prosperity as

1:22.2

a kind of efficiency question.

1:24.8

And that entire universe, dominant in the University of Chicago economics, school of economics,

1:30.2

all sorts of think tanks, all sorts of writers, this huge kind of era of big government is

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