The archeries of the internet of the global communication system are subsea cables.

There are approximately 500 subsea cables on the whole planet, which for about 60 million bucks you could take out.

I am building the outer net, which is the world's first completely self-contained

global communications network. In the fight that I'm in with the Chinese, we have been subjected

to 157 losses. This tactic of using the laws of Western countries against them, it is a legitimate method of warfare

and it's in their published military doctrine. They are preparing for a major event. God willing,

it will never happen. What do you mean by a major event? A war.

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and the ability to submit questions for upcoming guests. Sign up now at Triggerpod.co.uk. Or click the link in the description of this episode. Declan Gainland, welcome to Trigonometry. Thank you for having me. Great to have you. We met in D.C. We're a private event. I didn't know who you were, but this guy came on stage, stood up, gave a 10 minute speech. I know a thing or two about speeches, if I do say so myself. You just blew the roof off the whole place. You talked about your business that you're working on, dealing with the Chinese Communist Party and all of that. But actually, your story is even more rich than that. So just tell us, who are you, how are you where you are, why

you here? I'm an entrepreneur. I'm Irish plastic paddy born in Watford, north of London in

1968. I grew up there until I was almost 13 years of age, moved back home to Ireland.

With my parents, they're both from the west of Ireland. I'm a Catholic. I'm

married to a girl from Staten Island, New York, who's Italian-American. We met here in London

in February 1993. I proposed to her three weeks later. We'd be married for 32 years. I have four

adult children, one of whom lives here in London, three of whom live in the United States at the moment.

And I am building the outer net, which is the world's first completely self-contained global communications network.

It's a laser mesh network of what will become 600 satellites,

orbiting the planet and polar orbits to provide cyber secure communications to those that need it,

amongst other things. Well, you've also had a political journey as well, particularly in Ireland.

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