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🗓️ 3 March 2025
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0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of my podcast, Cult Conversations, |
0:10.4 | The Influence Continuum. |
0:12.7 | I'm so honored to have Marie Cheshachaka with me. |
0:18.2 | She is the International Policy Director at Stanford University Cyber Policy |
0:23.1 | Center, International Policy Fellow at Stanford's Institute for Human-Centered Artificial |
0:31.5 | Intelligence, and importantly, the author of the TechCoup, How to Save Democracy from Silicon Valley, Princeton University Press. |
0:41.9 | Oh my God, is this book, Preciant? |
0:45.4 | And I'll just add that between 2009 and 2019, Maritia served as a member of the European Parliament |
0:53.8 | for the Dutch Liberal Democratic Party |
0:56.0 | where she focused on trade, foreign affairs, and technology policies. |
1:01.0 | And you write a monthly column for Financial Times and serve on the UN's AI advisory body. |
1:08.3 | And you are an advisory board member with a number of nonprofits, including |
1:12.7 | Merricks, M-E-R-I-C-S, E-C-F-R. We're going to put all of this in the blog. And I learned |
1:22.3 | about your existence from my friend and colleague Dave Troy's podcast when he did an interview with you on Dave |
1:29.6 | Troy Presents and I'm like, oh my God, I want to see if she would grant me an interview and I was |
1:35.7 | surprised you did. So I'm very, very grateful. And since that interview, as of this morning, |
1:43.7 | we're recording this February 17th, we're hearing Vance |
1:47.8 | tell the Europeans that they should have more free speech, which means allow more |
1:53.8 | radicalization online, in my opinion, by Musk, etc. We're seeing Trump send somebody to Russia and talking to Putin about |
2:05.0 | Ukraine, and it's just a mess. And you have been following this lens for so many years. You're |
2:16.4 | one of the top experts. So please share about the tech |
2:22.0 | coup and also please share what you think my listeners need to know about what's happening |
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