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Legally Brunette

The Teachings of Jodi Hildebrandt

Legally Brunette

iHeartPodcasts

True Crime

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

After Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt’s child abuse charges in 2023, a new Netflix documentary is diving into the influence that Hildebrandt held over Franke and many other LDS church members throughout her career.

Shane’s position as an active LDS member lends perspective as to why local bishops would endorse Hildebrandt and the emphasis that the Mormon culture seems to place on certain “addictions”.

Plus, Emily admits her own theories about Jodi and why she targeted her harshest punishments towards men and children specifically.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi guys, welcome to a new episode of Legally Brunette. I will be your host, Emily Simpson, with

0:06.7

Shane. With Shane. I hope everybody had a good holiday. We're back after the Christmas and

0:11.7

New Year break. And before we get into, we're going to talk about Jody Hilda Brandt, who, if you

0:19.1

followed us along from the beginning, we did an earlier episode

0:21.9

on Ruby Frankie, which is the mom influencer in Utah that was arrested, I think it was 20, 23,

0:28.6

maybe, not too long ago.

0:30.1

No, not long ago.

0:30.7

For four counts of child abuse, and she is currently in prison.

0:34.8

But if you listen to our earlier episodes, you know that Jody Hilda Brandt was the

0:38.7

therapist that moved into the home and had a lot of influence over the family and ended up being

0:44.0

arrested as well. The criminal therapist. The criminal therapist. Right. So there's a new

0:48.9

Netflix show out that really focuses just on Jody Hilda Brand. So that's what we're going to talk about today.

0:55.9

But before we get into that, let's just do a little update. There's been some information that has come out recently on Brian Coburger.

1:03.4

Again, if you remember, Brian Coburger is the Idaho College murderer. He's in prison. Remember, he did not go to trial. He took a plea deal so he could

1:12.1

avoid the death penalty. Right. Is that part of his perfect crime strategy? Yes, that he just

1:17.6

pleads guilty because he wants to avoid the death penalty. So if you have not listened to that episode,

1:22.7

it's a really good one. I think we might have actually done two episodes on the Idaho murders.

1:27.1

So you can always find those on our feed, Legally Brunette.

1:30.9

So Brian Koberger's sister has spoken publicly about the last holidays she spent with him

1:36.4

just days before law enforcement descended on her parents,

1:39.7

Pennsylvania home and arrested him in connection with the fatal stabbing

1:42.8

of the four University of Idaho students.

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