The Tea: Leaks, Gossip, and More Supreme Court Drama
5-4
Prologue Projects
4.5 • 3.7K Ratings
🗓️ 28 April 2026
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael talk about the memos leaked to the New York Times, Sotomayor v. Kavanaugh, and the potential Supreme Court vibe shift.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects. On this week's episode of 5 to 4, Peter, Riannon, and Michael are diving into some recent Supreme Court drama, namely the leak of some secret decade-old memos to the New York Times. |
| 0:17.5 | Back in 2016, the Supreme Court halted President Obama's clean power plan in a five to four |
| 0:22.6 | ruling that circumvented the authority of lower courts. The ruling has come to represent the birth of |
| 0:27.4 | the modern shadow docket, which the court has been using routinely since the start of Trump's second |
| 0:31.9 | term to bless various actions by the administration. Shadow docket cases are handled quickly and |
| 0:37.4 | opacly without oral |
| 0:38.7 | arguments or full opinions. The public is typically left to wonder why the court ruled one way or |
| 0:44.1 | another. Thanks to the leaked memos published by the Times, we now have new insight into how the |
| 0:49.5 | court justifies it. This is 5 to 4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. |
| 1:01.1 | Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have cratered our |
| 1:06.6 | civil rights, like final exams cratering our listeners' careers. |
| 1:10.5 | I'm Peter. I'm here with ryanan |
| 1:12.4 | hey everybody and michael yeah why are you listening to us gossip about the supreme court when you |
| 1:17.5 | should be studying listener we know that some of you are law students it's late april early may |
| 1:24.6 | when this drops you're about the bomb dude you're about to fuck it out because you're listening to five to four. |
| 1:30.1 | What are you doing? |
| 1:31.4 | What are you doing? |
| 1:33.4 | Oh, my God. |
| 1:34.5 | You need to start freaking out. |
| 1:37.0 | It is time to panic. |
| 1:38.8 | What if you let the anxiety spike right now? |
| 1:41.4 | Yeah. |
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