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Wonder Cabinet

The Tangled Roots of War and Peace

Wonder Cabinet

Wonder Cabinet Productions

Society & Culture, Wonder, Philosophy, Ttbook, Knowledge, Interview

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Ghosts from the past stalk Europe again today in the wake of Russian tanks and missiles. To find a path forward, we might need to look back.

Original Air Date: March 05, 2022

Guests: 

Catherine Grace Katz — Margaret MacMillan — Rebecca Solnit

Interviews In This Hour: 

The legacy of Yalta, through the eyes of the women who were there — Why humans wage war — Tending a war-time garden: What George Orwell’s fascination with roses tells us about the human need for beauty in the darkest hours

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0:00.0

The conference room was ready.

0:08.5

77 years ago, Franklin Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, and Joseph Stalin met at Yalta to lay the

0:15.2

groundwork for peace in Europe.

0:18.3

Prime Minister Churchill arrived with his daughter.

0:21.7

And today, with tanks on the move, people in bomb shelters and buildings in rubble,

0:27.6

we're looking back to see what they might have missed.

0:30.8

The big three met again, holding the immediate future of the world in their hands.

0:38.5

I'm Anne Strange, Champs, and in this episode of To the Best of Our Knowledge,

0:42.0

The Tangled Roots of War and Peace.

0:49.0

Wisconsin Public Radio. It's to the best of our knowledge.

1:03.0

It's to the best of our knowledge, I'm Anne Strange Champs.

1:19.2

In early February, 1945, an ailing Franklin Roosevelt traveled together with Winston Churchill to Yalta.

1:30.3

The doctrine that the strong shall dominate the weak is the doctrine of our enemies, and we reject it. The journey there, I didn't appreciate how arduous it was,

1:36.3

and how much that shapes the tone and the rest of the conference.

1:40.3

Historian Catherine Gray's Katz is going to help tell the story.

1:45.0

Churchill and Roosevelt fly a harrowing night over enemy-occupied territory where there's still anti-aircraft units.

1:54.0

They're flying at low altitude and unpressurized planes.

1:57.0

They finally then arrive in the Crimea where the airfield that they're landing on is

2:03.6

dangerously short for the types of planes that they fly and it's shrouded in fog.

2:07.6

And then they have to drive a further six hours over Battlescarred roads, sometimes at no more than 20 miles an hour.

2:17.9

And it's just, it's an absolute nightmare.

2:22.0

When they finally arrived, it wasn't exactly what they were expecting.

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