The Talking Board Historical Society Uncovered with John Kozik
Ghost Bunny
Bridget Marquardt
4.8 • 709 Ratings
🗓️ 3 March 2026
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
On this week's episode, Bridget Marquardt and John Kozik delve into the fascinating world of Ouija boards, exploring their history, personal experiences, and the myths surrounding them. John shares his personal journey with Ouija boards, including his grandmother's use of one and the evolution of the boards over time. They discuss the Talking Board Historical Society's efforts to preserve the history of Ouija boards and the cultural impact they have had. The conversation also touches on the science behind how Ouija boards work, the misconceptions people have, and some spooky anecdotes from John's experiences in the museum.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the Ghost Bunny podcast. I'm your host, Bridget Markhart, with a brand new episode for you guys. |
| 0:22.9 | My guest today is John Kozik. John Kozik's obsession with collecting and researching Ouija began when he inherited his grandmother's board in the late 1990s. |
| 0:31.8 | He was surprised to discover that Ouija was just simply one specific brand of Talking Board and that they date much further back |
| 0:37.7 | than the Ouija of Parker Brothers. Spang. Through years of dedication, John is now one of the |
| 0:41.8 | most knowledgeable people on the subject. In 2013, he became a founding member of the Talking Board |
| 0:47.1 | Historical Society, a group that researches and preserves the history of talking boards. Fast forward to |
| 0:52.6 | 2019, John opened the doors of the Salem |
| 0:55.4 | Witchboard Museum to the public. It is the only museum dedicated to the history and lore of the |
| 1:00.7 | talking board, boasting the largest collection of boards, obscure memorabilia, under one roof. |
| 1:06.5 | In May of 2024, he realized one roof was not big enough for Ouija's rich history, so he opened a second location. |
| 1:14.6 | Witchboard Museum, Baltimore. |
| 1:16.5 | Whether you believe it's the tool of the devil or just an innocent kids game, a visit to the museums will allow you to learn more about this fascinating and iconic piece of Americana. |
| 1:26.4 | And I'm so excited to have him on the show today. |
| 1:28.7 | John, thank you so much for doing the show today. My pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. |
| 1:33.4 | Yeah, and I mentioned to you before we started recording, I've had Bob Merch on the show before. He is |
| 1:38.5 | the president of the Talking Board Historical Society, correct? He is. He's really the guy that has done all the research that I'm going to be able to tell you |
| 1:46.4 | about. He is the go-to guy for Ouija, and he's my best friend, so I've learned quite a bit from him. |
| 1:53.0 | I just had Karen Dalman on the show, too, and I was asking, one of the first questions I asked her is, |
| 1:58.0 | is it Ouija? Ouigi? What's your opinion? Well, the brand is |
| 2:03.1 | Ouija, but when you use the board, you would ask them if they wiji. So you wiji on a |
| 2:09.3 | Ouija, you verb on the noun. Okay. Did she answer it the same way, I hope? Well, she said that, |
| 2:26.7 | um, she said that it, the that the original way is Ouija, and we know that because it says it on the original board, say how you're supposed to say it. But she said that a lot of people say Ouija and it's become kind of normal. |
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