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The Taliban Takeover, One Year Later

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🗓️ 16 August 2022

⏱️ 23 minutes

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One year ago this week, when the Taliban retook control of Afghanistan, they promised to institute a modern form of Islamic government that honored women’s rights. That promise evaporated with a sudden decision to prohibit girls from going to high school, prompting questions about which part of the Taliban is really running the country. Guest: Matthieu Aikins, a writer based in Afghanistan for The New York Times and the author of “The Naked Don’t Fear the Water: An Underground Journey with Afghan Refugees.”

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From the New York Times, I'm Natalie Ketroa. This is the Daily.

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One year ago this week, when the Taliban retook control of Afghanistan, it promised to

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institute a moderate form of Islamic government that honored women's rights. But that promise

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evaporated with its decision to prohibit young women from going to school.

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Today, my colleague Matthew Eakins on what led to that decision and what it reveals about

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which part of the Taliban is really running Afghanistan.

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It's Tuesday, August 16th.

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Matt, you were in Afghanistan a year ago as the Taliban took over. Remind us what our

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expectations were at the time for how things might play out.

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Well, I can remember last summer as the previous Afghan government's forces started to collapse

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around the country as US troops withdrew. There was this mounting sense of panic in Kabul.

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The Taliban were going to come in. They were going to arrest and kill people who had worked

1:25.7

with the foreigners. There would be a return to the 90s where they were whipping women

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and men without beards in the streets. There would just be this blood bath, this brutal

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repression. At the same time, the Taliban were promising that they would not kill people

1:45.8

if they surrendered. That was a big factor behind their success. That's why they were able

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to take so much territory so quickly. That was one of the reasons why me and my housemate

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decided to stay in report on the fall of Kabul.

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I remember you came on the show and you had interviewed the spokesman for the Taliban

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right after the takeover. It sounded like he was trying to reassure you and maybe the

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world that all of those fears wouldn't actually come to pass.

2:17.0

That's right. I sat down with Zabiyol Ahmadjahid and he was trying to show a new face of

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