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The Emily Show

The Tale of 2 Different Cross Examinations: Robert Crozier & Carmen Lauber. | Case Brief

The Emily Show

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Entertainment News, True Crime, News

4.92.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Watch the full coverage of the live stream on The Emily D. Baker YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/XRlMv8H5eiA  Day 5 of the Kouri Richins trial brought more unexpected courtroom drama! This episode breaks down the intense and often confusing cross-examination of key witnesses Carmen Lauber, the go-between, and Robert Crozier, the substance procurer. RESOURCES Kouri Richins Trial Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsbUyvZas7gIKTiEBENmlYTBxjH_fbLUO   Kouri Richins Trial Case Brief Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFdNnRZUqH63ET7ols7SV3omxBEPgMoAh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back. It's time for a case brief, keeping you in the loop with the cases you care about most.

0:04.0

Just more briefly. If you want the full coverage, it's linked in the description below.

0:07.7

But for now, let's get into it.

0:10.8

Your Honor, the state calls Robert Cruz there.

0:13.7

Oh, it's February 27, 2026, and we are on day 5,739, or day of the Corey Richens trial. I have been waiting for this trial

0:25.4

forever and so far it has been completely unanticipated. The wildness that is this trial has been

0:33.6

unanticipated. I don't know what I expected, but it was not this. I guess I expected

0:39.4

some level of like normalcy in the courtroom. I did not expect the level of popping off

0:47.9

that we have seen in this case. I definitely didn't expect the level of clapping back at the judge, which is surprising.

0:56.3

And yesterday, the judge was just like, we're not doing that.

0:59.4

Let's don't do that.

1:00.8

And I feel like that's what we're all going to be saying to ourselves today, though I remain

1:03.8

optimistic that maybe today is the day that things just like slip back into normalcy

1:09.6

and we don't get all of the popping off. But the

1:13.6

judge has been so patient. I feel like this case is just going to blow right through its

1:21.2

time estimate if we continue with cross-examinations of witnesses who have a little bit to do with massive cross-examinations.

1:30.2

And then with witnesses that are significant, with these wandering, confusing, did we even make a point?

1:37.9

Did it get lost in the middle kind of cross-examinations?

1:41.6

I think there's plenty of valid room to cross-examinations. I think there's plenty of valid room to cross-examine Carmen Lobber. There's

1:50.5

plenty of room for that. But I think it's just going to get lost in the way that the cross-examination

1:59.4

is going, some of the things that are being done in that

2:02.8

cross-examination, and then how confusing the back and forth is. It is not a clean impeachment.

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