As we kind of enter this cost of living crisis, which has been going on for people in these communities for a long time,

it's only because it's beginning to affect the lower and upper middle classes, lifestyles, that it's now become a legitimate area of conversation.

The problem of Britain in recent decades has been the fact that the people who run the country have absolutely no clue what's going on where you are going.

The people in charge are almost like aliens, in terms of the level of common ground that they have with ordinary people.

And it's interesting because politics is a curious profession where you don't have to have any prior qualifications and any specialism,

really you just have to kind of have the ego to put yourself forward.

The politicians, the political classes, are democratic structures, but not designed to take in common calls.

But what we have now is a society that's so deeply unequal that in a representative democracy, the people who are elected to represent us are unrepresentative of us.

But when you're watching an American activist talking about white privilege, and then you're running from your affluent suburb in the UK and to pressed in town center,

just accusing people of it.

The first thing is, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, who the fuck are you talking to?

And privilege is a term that is loaded with centuries of connotations that people in working class communities use as an insult.

Hello and welcome to Trigonometry, I'm Francis Foster.

I'm Constantine Kisson.

And this is a show for you, if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

Our brilliant guest today is a writer, activist, and performer.

Darren McGarvey, welcome to Trigonometry.

Hello guys, pleasure to be here.

It's really great to have you.

We're going to talk about your new book, the social distance between us.

How remote politics wrecked Britain.

It's a really interesting conversation.

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