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CONFLICTED

The Syrian Civil War Pt.9: Aimen’s Nephew Answers the Call to Jihad

CONFLICTED

Message Heard

History, Religion & Spirituality

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Conflicted reaches the final episode of Season 5! We've journeyed from Africa to the historic toppling of the Assad regime in Syria, and now, to bring the season to a close, Thomas is joined once again by Aimen to reassess all the topics we’ve discussed this season. In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Aimen and Thomas discuss the state of Syria following 14 years of civil war, exploring the new complexities for Al-Sharaa’s regime. As with our previous Syria episodes, Aimen then shares a truly moving and tragic story about his nephew, Ibrahim, who, at just 19, traveled to Syria to fight. Aimen reflects on Ibrahim's motivations, the difficult conversations they had, and the profound impact of his nephew's death on him, especially in light of the recent fall of Damascus.  The conversation then shifts to the challenges facing President Ahmad Al-Sharaa's new government in Syria. Aimen provides an insider's view on the internal threats and opportunities for stabilisation, highlighting key areas like food security, electricity, and telecommunications infrastructure.  Finally, Thomas and Aimen broaden their scope to discuss the wider regional implications - from the war in Gaza, to a survey of Africa’s role in the multipolar world. While season 5 has come to a close, if you want to have your Conflicted fix every single week, then you’ll have to join our Conflicted Community. Subscribers will get bonus episodes every other week, and can also join our Conflicted Community chatroom, where you can interact with fellow dearest listeners, discuss episodes past and future, get exclusive messages from Thomas and Aimen, ask future Q&A questions and so much more. All the information you need to sign up to the Conflicted Community is on this link: https://conflicted.supportingcast.fm/  And be sure to keep your eyes and ears peeled for Conflicted season 6, coming soon… Conflicted is proudly made by Message Heard, a full-stack podcast production agency which uses its extensive expertise to make its own shows such as Conflicted, shows for commissioners such as the BBC, Spotify and Al Jazeera, and powerfully effective podcasts for other companies too. If you’d like to find out how we can help get your organisation’s message heard, visit messageheard.com or drop an email to hello@messageheard.com! Find us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MHconflicted And Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MHconflicted Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:04.2

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0:26.5

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0:30.8

Welcome back to conflicted, dear listeners, and to the final episode of Season 5.

0:37.4

We've been on quite the journey this series, starting off in Africa, before pivoting to Syria,

0:43.3

following the historic toppling of the Assad regime there after 14 years of Civil War.

0:50.3

But to bring the season to a close, I have my old friend back with me.

0:55.0

You know who.

0:55.8

It's Amon, Dean.

0:57.1

Amen, how are you?

0:58.4

The Oracle of Arabia is back, and he is greeting his fans, his supporters, and his

1:05.1

paddawan all over the world.

1:08.1

Amen, Amen, your head is getting bigger than the oil resources of Saudi Arabia.

1:14.0

Absolutely.

1:14.7

You need a million, you know, air miles in order to fly around my head these days.

1:19.7

I'm just kidding.

1:20.6

I'm just kidding.

1:21.6

Now, Amon, I'm very glad that we're talking to you to bring the Syria series to a close,

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