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The Suspected Russian Plot to Set Airplanes on Fire

The Journal.

The Wall Street Journal

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4.25.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2024

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Since the war in Ukraine began, strange attacks have been happening across Europe, including a plot to set DHL packages on fire. WSJ’s Bojan Pancevski on Russia’s escalating shadow war in Europe.    Further Reading: -Chinese Ship’s Crew Suspected of Deliberately Dragging Anchor for 100 Miles to Cut Baltic Cables  -Russia Suspected of Plotting to Send Incendiary Devices on U.S.-Bound Planes  -The Misfits Russia Is Recruiting to Spy on the West  Further Listening: -Elon Musk’s Secret Conversations with Vladimir Putin  -How Ukraine Built a Weapon to Control the Black Sea  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Earlier this year, our colleague Boyan Panchevsky met a source in a swanky hotel bar.

0:11.9

The source worked for a European security agency.

0:15.8

So we were kind of exchanging notes on that and talking about other stuff.

0:21.9

And then, you know, after a few cocktails, I just asked him, so what's keeping you busy now?

0:26.7

And he was like, well, you know, among other things, this conspiracy to set airlines on fire.

0:36.4

The source told Boyana's story that sounded straight out of a spy novel.

0:42.1

So Boyan and his Wall Street Journal colleagues began investigating it.

0:46.8

So we pieced the puzzle together, and we found out that the Russians had come up with an

0:53.0

ingenious way to smuggle undetectable incendiary devices

0:59.0

and put them on airplanes.

1:02.0

That sounds terrifying.

1:04.0

Yeah.

1:05.0

I've spoken to veteran intelligence operatives, police officers, politicians, historians,

1:12.9

and this was not even happening at the height of the Cold War, Russia,

1:17.8

or rather than the Soviet Union, wasn't attempting conspiracies that might end

1:24.1

in the kind of mass casualties of Western civilians.

1:31.4

This plot was alarming, and European intelligence agencies saw it as a big step-up in Russian attacks in Europe,

1:39.8

a violent conflict that has largely stayed hidden.

1:47.6

Welcome. A violent conflict that has largely stayed hidden. Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power.

1:52.9

I'm Kate Linebaugh. It's Friday, December 13th.

2:00.7

Coming up on the show, Russia's escalating shadow war in Europe.

2:16.5

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