Hello and welcome back to the podcast. I'm your host, Evan Brand. Thanks for joining me.

Today's an interview I did for a summit called Wellness After 40, which sounds generic and cliche.

But as you know, I like to go beyond nutrition, beyond fitness. That's what most people think.

When you tell them, hey, I'm 40, what should I be doing? People say, eat clean, exercise.

It's like, if that fixed everyone, you and I wouldn't be talking right now.

So I would encourage you to think outside of the conventional health box and obviously think in the functional medicine world where you realize that there's other things that can happen.

Like you can pick up infections which suppress stomach acid levels and that affects your nutrient absorption,

which then affects your neurotransmitters, which sabotages your motivation to work out and eat right.

Or if you have low serotonin because you have dysbiosis and you have sugar craving.

So you're trying to use just willpower.

And that will really never work if you're not fully addressing the underlying biochemical issues,

the neurotransmitters, the nutrient deficiencies, all that adds up.

But when you look on social media, it's just get motivated.

You see people angry and yelling and come on and

you hear people bump in the music. Like you're just supposed to just like work through that.

And to a certain extent, I think that's fine. Some people are just naturally more motivated and gifted

than others. That's great. But what about all the other people that don't feel like it or they just

can't do it or they crash after they try to exercise for two to three days because they have

mitochondrial dysfunction because they have Lyme disease or they have mold toxicity. These are the real

things that need to be on the front headlines, but it's just not as attractive as the mainstream health industry promotes.

You know what I'm saying?

Like it's a harder sell for me to say, hey, you've actually got to fix these five, six,

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