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🗓️ 3 July 2025
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0:00.0 | Grammar Girl here. I'm in Jan Fogarty, and on these Thursday shows, we talk about things that are generally interesting about language. And I am here with Keith Houston, who runs the blog Shady Characters. He has a book by the same name, Shady Characters, which is fabulous. And he has a new book called Face with Tears |
0:22.3 | of Joy, all about emoji. And emoji are also just a fascinating thing that we do with communication. |
0:29.6 | Keith, welcome to the Grammar Girl podcast. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah. So, you know, |
0:34.4 | emoji, I was surprised they go back much farther than I originally thought. |
0:39.0 | Can you talk a little bit about what was the first emoji? |
0:43.3 | I think it depends what you mean by emoji. |
0:45.8 | So there are smiley faces on prehistoric pots, for example, just a couple of dobs of ink or suit that show you a face. |
0:53.6 | If you then wait,, get into the medieval period |
0:56.2 | and a lot of readers, interestingly, not writers of books, but readers of books, would draw |
1:01.6 | little pictures in the margins to call out something interesting, little pointing hands, |
1:06.2 | and there are lots of pointing hand emoji. So you go from, okay, there are smiley faces and hands that look a bit |
1:11.9 | like emoji, and then eventually you get into 18th century Japan, and people are printing books, |
1:17.4 | which are composed not of Japanese logographic writing, but of actual pictures that are entire |
1:23.1 | stories told using only numbers and little pictures. And then if you'd like, well, what is that? |
1:29.1 | Is an emoji a yellow smiling face? The first of those was designed in the 1960s, the most iconic |
1:34.1 | one, the one that everyone would recognize, was designed by an American graphic designer called |
1:38.7 | Harvey Ball in 1960s. But if you finally get to an icon on a computer screen, then we're still not an emoji. Before |
1:46.4 | smartphones and before smart devices, just as the home computer was becoming more popular, |
1:53.4 | some of these computers had what were called, well, all computers have got what are called |
1:56.6 | character sets. This is a list of characters or symbols. The computer knows how to display. |
2:02.0 | And some of these, some of these fairly early, late 70s, early 80s ones have got characters |
2:07.3 | like little smiley faces and suits of cards and arrows and so on. And the idea was these |
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