The Supreme Court weighs transgender identity on passports.
Tangle
Isaac Saul
4.7 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
On Thursday, November 6, the Supreme Court grantedthe Trump administration’s request to temporarily pause a lower court ruling to allow transgender and nonbinary Americans to self-select their sex when applying for a passport. The decision was issued through the court’s emergency docket and was unsigned, though Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented and was joined by Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan.
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| 0:12.5 | Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. |
| 0:27.3 | I'm your host, Isaac Saul, and on today's episode, we're going to be talking about the passport case surrounding sex identifiers and some trans issues that was before the Supreme Court last week. |
| 0:43.5 | It was actually a request from the Trump administration that the Supreme Court granted to pause a |
| 0:49.9 | lower court ruling on the shadow docket in Trump v. Orr. We are going to talk about exactly what |
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