It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. Some of you know our show is preempted yesterday for live coverage of the oral arguments at the Supreme Court on Donald Trump

and the insurrection clause of the Constitution. The question was, can Colorado ban Trump from

the presidential election ballot because he engaged in an insurrection or gave aid in comfort

to insurrectionists, as the 14th Amendment said, would be disqualifying.

The Colorado Supreme Court has, in fact, barred him from the ballot in that state for exactly

those reasons. Trump appealed to the Supreme Court, and yesterday, the lawyers for the two sides

fought it out. Now, expert consensus seems to be that Trump won and Colorado lost. But let's see

what our guest this morning thinks as we play a few key excerpts and also discuss two other high-stakes

legal goings on at the same time. The appeals court ruling on whether Trump is immune from

prosecution for anything he did as president, even fomenting an insurrection if he

were to be found guilty of that. And the Biden classified documents report issued by a special

counsel yesterday. This was on so few people's radar, but it created a firestorm over the

conclusion that while Biden did not commit a crime,

that he did display memory problems in his five hours of testimony.

Biden angrily denounced that finding last night, as we will hear in a clip that we will play.

But back with us now is Emily Bazelon, Yale Law School Lecturer and Senior Research Fellow, New York Times Magazine

staff writer, and political GabFest co-host for Slate, and author of two bestselling books,

charged the movement to transform American prosecution and end mass incarceration, and sticks

and stones, defeating the culture of bullying and rediscovering the power of character and empathy.

Emily was last with us yesterday morning to preview the Supreme Court hearing.

And thanks for giving us your time.

Two mornings in a row, Emily, welcome back to WNYC.

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