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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Supreme Court Hears Arguments on Tariffs

The Brian Lehrer Show

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

The Supreme Court heard arguments this week on the legality of President Trump’s tariffs. Aziz Huq, a University of Chicago law professor and author of The Rule of Law: A Very Short Introduction (2024), analyzes the case and the justices’ likely leanings.

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0:00.0

Brian Laird on WNYC, oral arguments at the Supreme Court over the legal basis of the Trump

0:17.4

administration's tariff policies. Since the start of Trump's second term, as many of you know,

0:23.3

the president has made tariffs central to his strategy

0:26.4

to raise revenue for the country, that's one reason,

0:29.7

but also bring manufacturers back to the United States.

0:32.7

That's the one he generally leans on,

0:34.8

but also, as many of you already know,

0:37.3

to put pressure on the leaders of both

0:39.2

friendly and adversarial nations alike, to do whatever he wants them to do, and not just on

0:44.1

trade, but to bend to his will on many kinds of things, even domestic politics in their own

0:49.2

countries, where the tariffs are in effect just a fine for not obeying in advance.

0:55.3

But the legal foundation for these tariffs is a question.

0:59.6

The Constitution gives Congress the power to impose tariffs explicitly.

1:04.2

Trump invoked emergency powers under a 1977 law that has never before been used to impose tariffs in which he argues that

1:12.4

Congress delegated tariff powers to the president.

1:16.6

Now, during nearly three hours of oral argument yesterday, the court appeared deeply concerned

1:21.9

with Trump's reliance on this law, with even several members of the court's conservative

1:27.2

wing picking apart the administration's

1:29.6

position in a case that could have sweeping implications for the economy and also democracy,

1:35.9

particularly presidential power. We're going to hear a little of Justice Gorsuch. We're going to

1:40.2

hear a little of Chief Justice Roberts as joining me now with analysis of the oral arguments heard by the Supreme Court is Aziz Huck,

1:49.6

Professor of Law at the University of Chicago Law School and author of The Rule of Law,

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