The Supreme Court Conversation We’re Not Having

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

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🗓️ 19 June 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Last month, a leaked draft opinion offered a repudiation of a 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights. The historic leak was followed by both pro-choice and pro-life protests across the country.

While we await the Supreme Court’s decision, attorney Neal Katyal has been fighting back. Formerly the Solicitor General under the Obama Administration, Katyal joins us to discuss the historic nature of Justice Samuel Alito’s draft opinion (4:18), the ‘super precedent’ that Roe v. Wade has set (6:24), and why the Constitution is designed to protect individual rights (9:45). We also look at the states that have begun restricting abortion (16:05) and their unnerving parallels to Margret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale (20:23).

After the break, Neal outlines the aftermath of Alito’s draft opinion, should it come to pass: including other rights that could be in jeopardy (26:17), the erosion of public confidence in the courts (32:58), and a restrictive reimagining of the Judicial Branch (36:13). To end, Katyal reflects on a life in the courtroom and where he still finds hope—‘even in this darkest hour’ (44:29).

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0:44.8	missing pages on Apple Podcast or wherever you like to listen. Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm Sam F attorney Neil Katjal.
1:35.0	Katjal was formerly the Solicitor General under the Obama administration.
1:39.4	He's since gone on to run one of the largest Supreme Court practices at a law firm in DC.
1:44.8	He's also a professor of constitutional law at Georgetown University.
1:49.6	If you've been following the Roe v. Wade debates or the most recent case around the
1:54.3	insurrection there's a good chance you've seen Neil on MS NBC or in the New York Times
1:59.8	but for our conversation today I wanted to focus on the Mississippi case, Dobbs v Jackson
2:07.0	Women's Health Organization.
2:09.0	A month ago, a draft opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito was leaked to political. The opinion was a full-throated
2:15.0	was leaked to Politico. The opinion was a full-throated repudiation of the 1973 decision, which
2:19.9	guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights.
2:24.2	Not to mention the 1992 decision, Planned Parenthood v. Casey, that largely maintained that
2:30.0	right.
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