From the ACLU, this is at Liberty. I'm Emerson Sykes, a staff attorney here at the ACLU and your host.

League Alert has been fighting to protect immigrants' rights for nearly three decades, and he's been

arguably the busiest person at the ACLU since President

Trump took office. In his role as deputy director of the ACLU's Immigrants Rights Project,

Lee has sued the government over the Muslim ban, family separation, and various attacks on asylum.

Now, he's set to argue a case before the Supreme Court to ensure that asylum seekers have their day in court.

He's joining us today to break down this historic case and tell us what it's like to be on the front lines of the immigration battles.

Lee, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks for having me.

So, as I said, you've been a tireless advocate for immigrants' rights rights and this battle has increased exponentially since

Trump took office. So I guess the first question is, are you getting sleep? How are you taking

care of yourself? I think I've moved recently from tireless to tired. Yeah, it's been a long

three years, but I think everyone at the ACLU and all the other NGOs

and people who are working on these issues are working hard. I think what keeps all of us going

is when we see the clients. You know, there's really no way you can say I'm too tired to keep

going when you see their struggles and their perseverance.

But, you know, I'm not going to lie, it's been a rough three years. I think immigration has been

the forefront of what the administration's doing. And there's literally every month a fundamental

changed immigration policy. And so that's why we've been in court so

often in the last three years. We've been in court extremely often. But the case that's coming

up is a bit different. It's a Supreme Court argument. You've had one before. Yes. But these are

big deal by any measure. We'll get to the details of the case, but I wonder if you can fill us in

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