Hello and my name is Jean with a silent age.

Hello and welcome to the Work for Change Podcast.

My name is Jean, spelled like Jean, and my name is John with a silent H welcome to episode number 62 of the work for change podcast we're also joined with

Sam. Thanks for having me again.

You know, it was just such a success last time.

That is why we had you on.

They begged and begged. Nothing to do with the availability of interviews.

Another guest or anything like nothing.

It was literally like so many people where they were like, we need to have Sam again.

So that's why you were.

Yeah.

Actually, actually, actually.

That we're like making fun to you, but also people are like...

No, it's actually true. It's nice. It's nice having a third person kind of to bounce

that's okay. Not even a third person. It's nice to have a female perspective.

Yeah. That's what we... a female perspective yeah that's what we you're

welcome that is what I'm surely needed even though I am very emotional

we're both kind like yeah we definitely carry some traits for sure. Yeah, like we're not manly men

So yesterday I don't think at least yeah, no we're not

Even though I have a beard you look like a manly man. I have a beard and I have a starter's tool set.

So he has like four tools you guys.

I know. From our wedding registry.

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