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The Daily

The Sunday Read: ‘How Long Can We Live?’

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.3107.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Jeanne Calment lived her entire life in the South of France. She filled her days with leisurely pursuits, enjoying a glass of port, a cigarette and some chocolate nearly every day. In 1997, Ms. Calment died. She was 122. With medical and social advances mitigating diseases of old age and prolonging life, the number of exceptionally long-living people is increasing sharply. But no one is known to have matched, let alone surpassed, Ms. Calment’s record. Longevity scientists hold a wide range of nuanced perspectives on the future of humanity. Some consider life span to be like a candle wick, burning for a limited time. While others view it as a supremely, maybe even infinitely elastic band. As the eminent physicist Richard Feynman put it in a 1964 lecture, “There is nothing in biology yet found that indicates the inevitability of death.”

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0:00.0

There's a creature I'm fascinated by, turitopsis dornii.

0:04.3

It's a jellyfish with unique biological powers.

0:08.9

When an adult turitopsis is injured or threatened, it can revert to its juvenile state, mature

0:14.7

and revert again, potentially continuing this cycle forever.

0:20.1

There are other organisms that also seem to live for extraordinarily long times.

0:25.4

In Utah, there's a colony of genetically identical aspentries that is probably endured for tens

0:31.5

of thousands of years.

0:33.9

In theory, at least some of these organisms are what scientists call biologically immortal,

0:39.9

which means they don't die of old age.

0:43.2

Of course, the only way to know for sure that they're truly immortal is if you yourself

0:48.4

are also immortal.

0:51.7

Aging and death have long been some of the biggest mysteries in biology.

0:56.7

Most biologists agree that aging is not an adaptive trait shaped by natural selection.

1:02.7

Unlike, say, the fins and tail of a fish, or a bird's nest building instincts, aging

1:08.7

does not give organisms any particular advantage.

1:12.9

But as some of the biologically immortal creatures show us, it is technically possible for

1:18.4

an organism to just keep living.

1:21.4

And if that's true, why aren't we all immortal?

1:26.3

I'm Ferris Jaber, and I'm a contributing writer for The New York Times magazine.

1:31.3

I wrote about human longevity and how we might stretch it even further than we already

1:36.3

have.

1:37.7

I also wrote about the ethics of a world in which humans live for multiple centuries and

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