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Axis Moondy Welcome to Straight White American Jesus.

This is the Sunday interview.

I am Brad Onishi, co-host of this show, author of American Caesar,

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are turning America into a monarchy, founder of Axis Moody Media.

Today I interview Pamela Brown from CNN, and I'm interviewing her because she has led

the efforts to create a documentary coming out in one week about Christian nationalism,

Doug Wilson, reformed churches across the country, and the rise to power and the mainstreaming

of a very radical form of American Protestantism. We talk about what it was like to interact with those who are part of

CREC-aligned churches, that is the denomination that Wilson helped to found, what it was like

to interview Wilson himself and to visit Moscow, Idaho, and most importantly, in my view,

to talk to survivors who were willing to come on camera and to tell the world about

their abuse, about their experiences, and what they've learned and what they would like us to know

since leaving those communities. I want to say a couple things beforehand, and then we'll get

to the interview. One is the person who in my mind has really done

the groundbreaking work on this front is Sarah Stan Corb, the journalist, who wrote a book called

Disobedient Women and also wrote a piece for Vice in 2021 that outlined in detail the kinds of

abuse that people at Wilson's church have experienced and the ways that the church

and Wilson have handled it. So to me, Sarah is the person who has cultivated not only a sense

of what's happening in Moscow, Idaho with Wilson, but also built trust with survivors who have

taken the courageous steps to share their stories.

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