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The Sunday Interview: Governing Without Accountability: Silicon Valley’s Ideology with Adrian Daub

Straight White American Jesus

Axis Mundi Media: Bradley Onishi + Daniel Miller

Politics, News

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Annika Brockschmidt sits down with Adrian Daub, Professor at Stanford University and author of the upcoming book What Tech Calls Governing. Daub provides a searing intellectual history of the vibe shift in Silicon Valley, dismantling the myth that the tech world has undergone a broad political transformation. Instead, Daub argues that we are witnessing the radicalization of a billionaire elite, a small class of men like Marc Andreessen, Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel, who have moved rightward not because of shifting data, but out of a reactionary backlash to post pandemic social pressures and the accountability of the MeToo and BLM movements. By examining the ideological bridge from 1960s counterculture to modern cyberculture, Daub reveals how the hippie to tech pipeline created a foundation for a brand of power that refuses to recognize itself as power, leading to a strange paradox where the world’s most influential men consistently frame themselves as persecuted outsiders. The conversation dives deep into the specific ideologies driving today’s tech giants, from René Girard’s mimetic theory to the biohacking and eugenics adjacent subcultures of the ultra wealthy. Daub offers a brilliant critique of the current AI hype cycle, arguing that framing Artificial Intelligence as an unstoppable force of nature is a deliberate political maneuver designed to bypass regulation and democratic oversight. Beyond the policy, they discuss the revealing and often bizarre aesthetics of the tech elite, such as the AI generated gladiator imagery favored by aging billionaires, which Daub links to a historical fascist obsession with the idealized male form and ego. Looking forward, the duo explores the Palantir problem and the structural flaws in Silicon Valley’s current political bets, while offering a preview of Daub’s next project, Project 1933: Fascism Then and Now, which contextualizes our current moment within the darker chapters of 20th century history. Adrian Daub: What Tech Calls Thinking https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374721237/whattechcallsthinking/ Subscribe for $3.65: ⁠https://axismundi.supercast.com/⁠ Subscribe to our free newsletter: ⁠https://swaj.substack.com/⁠ Order American Caesar by Brad Onishi: ⁠https://static.macmillan.com/static/essentials/american-caesar-9781250427922/⁠ Donate to SWAJ: https://axismundi.supercast.com/donations/new Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Axis Mundy

0:07.0

Axis Moondy Welcome to the straight white American Jesus Sunday interview. I am Annika Brochmidt, author of America's

0:37.2

Godes Krieger, America's godly warriors and the Brandstifter, the arsonists, and host of podcasts like feminist self-control.

0:44.5

Today I'm very excited to be speaking with Adrian Daupe about his new book, What Tech Calls Governing, which is out in German right now, if I've understood that correctly,

0:54.8

under the title, I'm going to say the German title, because why not,

0:58.7

what does Vali herchen meant?

1:01.3

And Adrian is a professor of German studies and literature at Stanford University,

1:06.2

so he's right at the source, as well as the director of the Michel

1:10.3

Clayman Institute for Gender Research.

1:13.7

And basically, whether you want to learn about Novalis, Adorno, Wagner,

1:19.6

by the way, I just realized that there are some Wagner notes right on the shelf behind me.

1:25.1

Or the cancer culture panic or the weird gender and sex politics of the modern

1:30.1

right, Adrian is your guy. That's, Adrian, that's your claim to fame now. That is, that is what

1:35.9

you are known for. Oh, God. Life choices. Yeah. But this is actually, yes. And this is actually the second time that we as two native German speakers will be recording a podcast episode in English.

1:51.3

That's right, because you were on in bed with the right to dispel myths and to explain the German election to our listeners, which is still a very, very popular episode,

2:01.9

remain so.

2:02.9

Because people are, every once in a while, people are seized by the question, what the

2:06.9

fuck is up with Friedrichs?

2:08.9

I mean, that is a question that, I think, puzzles me daily.

2:13.9

Yeah.

2:14.1

I have daily moments of thinking about Friedrich Merz, and that's quite unpleasant, I have to say.

2:18.5

Yeah, no.

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