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The Sunday Debate: The War on Terror was the right response to 9/11

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🗓️ 22 August 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Have the West’s efforts to eradicate Al-Qaeda around the world simply been fuelling the flames of hatred and violence? Or would we have suffered even more atrocities if we’d left the militants to plot in their hiding places? Is the US right to be pursuing its hard line against militants in countries such as Pakistan and Yemen? These are just some of the questions explored in this Intelligence Squared debate from September 2011, which saw former President of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf and former US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy Colleen Graffy defend the motion. Opposing the motion were former French foreign minister and co-founder of Médecins Sans Frontières Bernard Kouchner and former UK Permanent Representative at the United Nations in New York Sir Jeremy Greenstock. The debate was chaired by BBC World News presenter Zeinab Badawi. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Rory Stewart, and I'd like to tell you about an intelligent squared event

0:04.8

I'm doing with the classicist author and broadcaster Mary Beard. Together we'll be discussing

0:10.1

politics and power from the Caesars to Sunack, who gets to Winpar, who is excluded,

0:16.0

does power always corrupt, or other examples of leaders who've maintained their integrity while

0:21.1

an authority. And how does the nature of power vary across different times and cultures?

0:26.0

These are just some of the questions that Mary and I will be trying to answer.

0:29.6

In person tickets are now sold out, but you can still watch online on the 13th of November

0:34.6

at 7pm BST. Put your questions first live as we discuss power and politics down the edges.

0:40.8

Hello podcast listeners and welcome to this week's episode of the Sunday debate. Today we're going

0:45.6

all the way back to 2011. When we staged the motion The War on Terror was the right response

0:51.0

to 9.11. Now it's particularly interesting to look back on what opinion was a decade ago,

0:57.1

in light of recent events in Afghanistan and beyond. And this debate is packed with well-known

1:02.4

political figures from former president of Pakistan, Perves Musharraf and former UK permanent

1:08.3

representative at the United Nations, Sir Jeremy Greenstock. We hope you enjoyed and now let's

1:13.0

go to the chair of the BBC's Zeynab Badawi. Hello, I'm Zeynab Badawi. Welcome to this intelligent

1:19.9

square debate coming to you from Kaduggan Hall in central London. It's exactly 10 years ago

1:26.9

that 9.11 happened. Nearly 3,000 people were killed in those attacks in America and they changed

1:34.2

the course of world history forever. The motion in our debate a decade on was The War on Terror

1:42.8

the right response to 9.11 and in our panel we have some of the key figures from that time.

1:49.9

Perves Musharraf was president of Pakistan. He is arguing for the motion along with Colin

1:57.6

Graffey who served in the Bush administration. Arguing against the motion Sir Jeremy Greenstock

2:04.1

who was the senior British diplomat at the time and the influential French politician Dr Bergenard

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