You're listening to Intelligent Squared. In this week's episode of the Sunday debate, we're going back to

2019 when we stage an event bringing together leading voices in academia politics and journalism to discuss and debate

What kind of relationship countries should seek to have with a more assertive and confident China?

It's a really fascinating debate and we hope you enjoy it now. Let's go to the episode

Good evening everyone. It's great to be here

So a big thank you at the outset to Intelligent Squared to our great panel and to all of you for being here

Our discussion tonight the theme China friend or foe so before we get started with panel

Let's just check what your thoughts are. Let's just check the mood of the room with a quick show of hands

So all those who start with the position China friend

Could you give me a hands-up?

I'm going to get I'm going to get the panel to help me measure how many do you think roughly that is show of hands?

percentage of the room is probably about 30 something about 30. Okay China foe hands up

Probably probably roughly the same. So does that leave about 40% of don't know how many of you don't know. Let's have a show of hands

Yeah

I would say

Third a third a third a third a third says Malcolm and so obviously a huge

Question and in no particular order. I just

thought

Earlier today random news stories running through my head some of the things that happened in the last few days the last few weeks

A Chinese billionaire described Australia as a giant baby after it revoked his visa over inference operations

Some of the big corporations caterpillar apple

Chaguelandrova warned that China's economic slowdown was damaging their sales and damaging their profits a Chinese ambassador

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