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No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

The Subtext: When did U2 Get So Political?

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 555 Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

With their new EP Days of Ash, U2 turns up the volume on grief, protest, and hope. What exactly are they trying to say? This week on The Subtext, we dive into U2’s new Days of Ash EP. From Holocaust memory and lament in “The Tears of Things,” to Iranian resistance in “Song of the Future,” to questions about politics, rights, and God’s power in “American Obituary,” we explore how theology, politics, and art intertwine in U2’s latest offering to the world. Things we mentioned in this episode: Theo of Golden by Allen Levi Surrender by Bono Days of Ash - U2 Night by Elie Wiesel The Tears of Things by Richard Rohr With God on Our Side - Bob Dylan Stream Savannah's new single "God Have Mercy" (it's beautiful!)  Follow The Subtext: Instagram | Threads | X | YouTube | TikTok Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter | Lee's Newsletter Follow Savannah: Instagram | Substack Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Savannah, how in the world are you? So good to see you here. Nice to see you here. What's going on? I'm liking this polo situation. The polo situation. Tommy Hilfiger. Is that what that is right there? That's my guess. I'm pretty sure. Okay. Yeah. I couldn't tell you. Yeah. Where did you get it from? My closet. Nice. Okay. Just from my closet. This is who you are. This is it. Feeling great. Have you been watching the Olympics? Because I'm very bought in. We did watch. We have enjoyed the Olympics a bit. Yes. We just kind of do some of the highlights in the evening.

0:39.2

So, yeah. But what of you, what's your favorite sport to be watching? Well, I would love to be a curler.

0:47.7

Oh, yeah, I can see this. I don't get it.

0:55.8

Lee, why?

0:57.1

What don't you got?

0:58.4

What do you mean why?

1:01.2

Isn't it obvious that it's an odd sport? No, I think it is the best.

1:04.6

Wait, Lee, is this our first argument for real?

1:07.5

Okay, tell me your experience of curling.

1:15.4

I think my experience of curling is, I mean,

1:19.9

I feel like I'm going to get in trouble here. No, that's okay. I'm not going to be defensive.

1:26.6

Well, I'm not worried about you. I'm worried about the lovers of curling around the world.

1:33.9

And, but, yeah, just you tell me what you like about it.

1:35.4

It's a team sport.

1:35.9

Okay.

1:37.3

Anyone can do it.

1:37.8

Okay.

1:41.4

I'm not saying it's easy where anyone can do it, but I'm saying that anyone could learn to do curling versus not anyone couldus not anyone could become like a figure figure. Right. Okay. I think that it feels strategic. I would agree with that. And in control. Mm-hmm. But then there are also these elements that you really can't control it. Like if you, if you've let the thing go too fast, it's over. Like you really, it's going to hit and it's done. but if you if you've let the thing go too fast it's over like you it's going to hit and it's done but

2:03.9

if you haven't pushed it far enough then it's never going to reach your goal so I think that there's

2:08.8

an element like no matter how much you broom or sweet it's not going to make the ice slippery enough to

2:13.3

me so I think that there's some like fun elements that are in control some that are out out of control, love the teamwork. And I love that it's, it feels like I could become a curler. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I could see you becoming a girler. Believe me, I've asked my friends. I've asked my friends. This is not allowed. Two nights ago, I at Dicies with two of my best girlfriends.

2:52.0

And we were watching the Canadians. Wait, Dyses. Is that the pizza place? Yes. Down by the railroad track. They have great gluten-free pizza. By the railroad track. I love that. I just ate there like during winter storm fern when we were like away from our house. And we said, let's go find some place we've never eaten before. and we went to Dicies. It was great.

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