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No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

The Subtext: God Had a Big Week in Pop Culture

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp

Lee Camp

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 555 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

From a Gen Z grunge pop artist’s critique of Bible interpretation to politics to the Artemis II mission, God had a big week in pop culture. This week on The Subtext, we unpack a wave of God-talk across pop culture, from Sofia Isella’s haunting critique of biblical “context,” to Paula White-Cain’s eyebrow-raising comparison of Trump to Jesus, to Perez Hilton’s post-near-death approach to scripture. We also zoom out (literally!) with a powerful Easter message from the Artemis II crew that reframes faith, humanity, and our place in the universe. Things we mentioned in this episode: Endurance by Alfred Lansing The Wright Brothers by David McCullough The Monkey Wrench Gang by Edward Abbey Desert Solitaire by Edward Abbey  There There by Tommy Orange Cross Vision by Gregory A. Boyd  Jesus was a Feminist by Leonard Swidler  Follow The Subtext: Instagram | Threads | X | YouTube | TikTok Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter | Lee's Newsletter Follow Savannah: Instagram | Substack Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, Lee. Welcome to our show. Hello, Savannah. How in the heck are you? You know, feeling great. It's a very sleepy day. This is a sleepy day here in Nashville. A little kind of cloudy and gray. Drury. Yes. A perfect day for a nap, someone's time. Perfect day for a nap. Yes. Lee, we were just talking earlier about how you take naps

0:20.8

basically every day.

0:22.0

It's true.

0:22.6

Yeah, or most days.

0:24.8

I try to most days, yes.

0:26.1

My aura ring.

0:27.5

Do you know what this is?

0:28.6

I've heard of them, yes.

0:29.9

It, like, talks about your steps and blah, blah, blah, blah.

0:32.2

It also takes stock of your naps.

0:35.3

Oh, really?

0:36.1

It told me that last year, in total, I took two naps.

0:40.5

That is just not enough. I feel like I need to be disciples in two napping. Well, I'm a strong

0:48.3

advocate of it. Do you not get like at all drowsy afterwards or do you just wake up feeling

0:53.8

you have to know when to get up? Yeah. I mean my max is 34 minutes. 34. Oh, this is a science. Yeah. How did you determine that? I just experimented. Okay. But I started paying attention that if I go longer than 34, then I wake up groggy. And you're setting your alarm? Yeah. And typically during the

1:16.1

work week, I'm more 18 to 24 minutes. Today I did do 30, I think. But yeah, everybody has

1:23.8

different work schedules, rhythms, I guess. but I'm very fresh when I first start

1:28.9

at work in the morning. But if I take a nap, then I start out fresh again for the afternoon.

1:34.6

It's like turning over a new page. Yeah, that's right. So I think I'm more productive,

1:38.4

which goes back to the book, Rest, I mentioned to you, subtitled, why you get more done when you do less or something like that.

1:46.6

And that's the kind of the...

1:49.0

Why you get more work done when you work less.

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