The Subpoena Cases Come Down

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🗓️ 10 July 2020

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Yesterday, the Supreme Court, on the final day of its term, handed down the two big subpoena cases: Trump v. Vance, in which the president tried to beat back a subpoena from a New York grand jury, and Trump v. Mazars USA, LLP, in which the president tried to beat back a congressional subpoena for his financial records. He didn't entirely succeed in either case, but he made some headway in the Mazars case. To discuss it all, Benjamin Wittes spoke with Lawfare's Margaret Taylor, Scott Anderson, Quinta Jurecic and Molly Reynolds. They talked about whether the president has a path forward before the New York grand jury, and what the cryptic decision in Mazars portends, both for Trump and for the executive-legislative oversight relationship.

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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:33.9	These committees, presumably in the Congress, will be thinking about separation of powers
0:39.1	issues, anticipating what the court might be concerned with as those sort of other factors
0:44.8	and could be successful, perhaps on a faster timeframe, given that there now is some kind
0:50.6	of a roadmap here.
0:52.4	But I don't think it's going to be significant in the short term in terms of the Congress
0:59.4	getting the accounting information and the tax information prior to November.
1:05.8	I'm Benjamin Whitteson.
1:07.3	This is the LawFair podcast July 10, 2020.
1:12.8	The Supreme Court on the final day of its term yesterday handed down the two big subpoena
1:20.6	cases.
1:22.2	Trump vvants in which the president tried to beat back a subpoena from a New York
1:29.2	grand jury.
1:31.2	And Donald Trump v.
1:33.1	Mezzars USA LLP in which the president tried to beat back a congressional subpoena for
1:42.2	his financial records.
1:44.2	He didn't entirely succeed in either case, but he made some headway in the Mazars case.
1:52.1	We have got a bang up crew to discuss it all in the virtual jungle studio.
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