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Lipstick on the Rim

The Style and Grace of Michelle Obama, from IMO

Lipstick on the Rim

Sony Music

Arts, Society & Culture, Fashion & Beauty

4.3 • 978 Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Sharing a new series from one of our favorite podcasts: IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson. On IMO’s special series The Look, Michelle Obama opens up for the first time about her journey and legacy as a fashion icon– in and beyond the White House. Through a series of candid, intimate conversations with her longtime beauty collaborators, fashion insiders, and legendary women–including Jane Fonda, Nina Garcia, Bethann Hardison, Elaine Welteroth, Jenna Lyons, among others–she reveals how she and her team leveraged the scrutiny of her public image to boldly celebrate self-expression, inclusion, and cultural impact. A companion to her book, The Look celebrates an extraordinary legacy of authenticity and representation that continues to permeate culture, politics, and fashion today. In this episode, Project Runway host and Editor-in-Chief of Elle Nina Garcia, guides a conversation between Michelle Obama and African-American Literature professor Farah Jasmine Griffin. They dive into the making of Michelle Obama as a defining force in style: what she wore growing up in the South Side of Chicago, how she evolved her self-presentation in college, and how she stepped into her public image on the national stage as the first Black First Lady.  You can hear The Look series inside the IMO feed at https://lnk.to/imomichellecraigLR  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:03.0

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1:13.4

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1:17.9

Here it is now.

1:19.5

This isn't just about dresses and fabrics and designers.

1:23.1

And it never was for you.

1:25.2

It's about the next chapter of who we are, not just as black people or as black women, but as a nation. We have women in charge. People running offices. Diversity is important. You know, diversity and inclusion. It's not just a catch word. It's not about economics and people getting jobs. It's about us defining, creating spaces where we now know one another. So we cannot be one another's enemies. And I know this is a book about fashion, but I hope it's a reminder of what was. What was and what can be.

2:01.6

What it can be.

2:02.6

Yeah, and what it can be.

2:16.6

Hello and welcome to The Look, a special series on IMO based on Michelle Obama's latest book,

2:20.8

which is available for purchase now. I'm today's moderator, Nina Garcia, editor-in-chief of Elle,

2:27.6

and it is a pleasure to be joined today by Farah Jasmine Griffin, who is an esteemed

2:32.8

professor of English and comparative literature at

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