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Being a pastor who started in a building,

in a hole in the wall with no help, no support, no money,

was the minister of music and the president of the Deacon board.

Jamar and Jamay were the choir and Sarita, they all sang,

and I played the piano. My foot was the drum.

And I was happy.

I wasn't crying. I was happy to have an opportunity.

I struggle today with people who got buildings,

and they've got choirs, and they've got health,

and they say, Bishop, I just can't hardly make it.

Nobody's helping me. I said, oh, nobody's supposed to help you.

You're supposed to. There's something you learn in the fight

that makes you able to stand on the blessed.

Nobody's supposed to help you.

So one thing we must be clear about,

if you're going to be relevant, you've got to be prepared to struggle.

And the struggle is often in a unique way.

Samuel Struggle was different from Hannes,

but it was a struggle nonetheless to break the gravitational pull

of his environment was a struggle,

an environment that was carnal and mediocre,

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