The Struggle in Chile with Alondra Carrillo & Pablo Abufom

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.8 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2019

⏱️ 165 minutes

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Summary

Dan's lengthy interview with two brilliant Chilean social movement organizers: Alondra Carrillo and Pablo Abufom. Carrillo organizes in the country's massive feminist movement. Abufom works in the labor-backed movement for a just pension system.

Read Dan's interview with Daniel Jadue, the Communist mayor of Recoleta, in Jacobin.

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0:00.0	This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our supporters at patreon.com
0:05.0	and by Verso Books, which has loads of great left-wing titles, perfect for dig listeners like you.
0:13.7	One that you might like is Future Histories, What Ada Lovelace, Tom Payne, and the Paris Commune teach us about digital technology by Lizzie O'Shea.
0:25.6	When we talk about technology, we always talk about the future, which makes it hard to figure out how to get there.
0:33.6	In future histories, Lizzie O'Shea argues that we need to stop looking forward and start looking backwards.
0:42.1	Weaving together histories of computing and social movements with modern theories of the mind, society, and self,
0:50.1	O'Shea constructs a usable past that can help us determine our digital future.
0:56.3	What, she asks, can the Paris Commune tell us about earlier experiments in sharing resources,
1:03.9	like the Internet in common? Can debates over digital access be guided by Tom Paine's
1:10.1	theories of democratic economic redistribution?
1:13.4	And how is Elon Musk not a visionary, but a throwback to Victorian-era utopians?
1:21.0	In engaging, sparkling prose, O'Shea shows us how very human our understanding of technology is, and what potential exists for struggle, for liberation, for art and poetry in our digital present.
1:36.6	Future histories is for all of us, makers, coders, hacktivists, Facebook users, self-styled Luddites, who find ourselves in a brave new world.
1:48.9	Future histories, what Ada Lovelace, Tom Payne, and the Paris Commune teach us about digital technology.
1:57.2	By Lizzie O'Shea. Out now from Verso Books.
2:10.0	Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin magazine. My name is Daniel Denver, and this interview was recorded in Santiago de Chile, but right
2:19.9	now, as I read these words, I am back in Providence, Rhode Island.
2:25.0	Earlier this year, I posted my interview with Daniel Hadway, the communist mayor of Recoleta,
2:30.7	a municipality in Santiago. That interview was in Spanish, and we published a transcript in
2:37.0	English at Jacobin. Today's episode is an interview in English with two of Chile's smartest and most
2:45.0	interesting left-wing social movement leaders. Alondra Carillo, an organizer with the Cornydera Feminista
2:52.3	8M, Chile's powerful feminist coalition that brought hundreds of thousands to the streets
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