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What we do in the entertainment industry is we make the most valuable media property in the world.

We make the luxury car, right, of media. We make when it's a Friday night and you want to go see

a really handsome person and some big explosions and some great writing, you know,

and you want to see some daredevils. You want to see Tom Cruise actually jump that

fucking motorcycle off that fucking mountain, right? You pay $15, you go to the movie theater,

sit in the dark, right? And that is going to continue to exist. And part of the reason I believe

that is because new forms of media never eradicate the old form of media, right? We still have theater,

we still have radio, we still have movies, we still have television, and you know, that we have

video games, you know, none of those things were killed, right? You could say, oh, why are people

still watching the NBA when I can control LeBron James? I might, well, it's a different experience

and, you know, people still want that older experience. I'm John Favreau. Welcome to Offline.

Hey, everyone. My guess this week is comedian and writer's guild negotiator, Adam Conover.

Last week, we started our conversation about the writers and actors going on strike.

I talked to Madeline Ashby, who wrote a piece for Wired about how the Silicon Valley

ethos came to Hollywood and led us to this moment. It was a great conversation, and if you haven't

yet listened, you should go check it out. This week, Adam and I talk about how that Silicon Valley

ethos has affected the livelihoods of writers, actors, and everyone in the entertainment industry.

You might know Adam as the host of TrueTV's Adam Ruins Everything, or the host of Netflix's The

G-Work. Today, he hosts a great podcast called Factually, and more important to this conversation

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