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On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

The strange psychology behind fawning

On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

WBUR

Talk Show, Daily News, News, Npr, On Point, Daily

4.23.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

If you have ever found yourself dealing with a threatening person, and instead of fleeing them, you flattered – that’s called fawning. Psychologist Ingrid Clayton on the psychology behind this self-preservation strategy.

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0:36.9

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0:39.5

A recent episode explores the high stakes of the AI economy.

0:44.1

Stick around until the end of this podcast for a preview.

0:48.6

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0:56.7

This is on point. I'm Magna Chakrabardi.

0:59.9

On August 26th, President Donald Trump held a cabinet meeting at the White House.

1:05.3

It was more than three hours long.

1:08.2

Its entirety was broadcast live, the longest ever televised cabinet meeting in

1:14.2

presidential history.

1:16.4

Americans who watched it witnessed each and every member of the cabinet update the president

1:21.2

on their departments and agencies.

1:23.8

But before they did that, they each began with something like this.

1:28.0

Mr. President, first of all, thank you for the opportunity and work for you.

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