The Story: Will AI Agents Build a Unicorn?
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🗓️ 3 December 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Can you run a billion dollar company with only one human employee? Journalist Evan Ratliff, along with technical advisor Maty Bohacek, join Oz to answer this question. Evan is host of the hit podcast Shell Game. In Season 1, he used AI agents to imitate his voice, which he sent out into the world to interact with customer service agents, scammers, and his own family and friends. This season, Evan co-founds a company… and employs five AI agents to keep it running. How effective are the agents at doing their jobs? And why do they love hiking so much?
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed human. |
| 0:18.0 | Welcome to Tech Stuff. |
| 0:19.3 | I'm here with Kara Price. |
| 0:20.6 | Hi, Kara. |
| 0:21.3 | Hi. Do you want to say what your name is, Oz? |
| 0:23.9 | My name is Oz. |
| 0:26.8 | Oswaloshin. |
| 0:33.0 | So you and I hosted a podcast back in 2019 called Sleepwalkers, and you ran quite an extraordinary prank on your cousin. |
| 0:41.7 | I did. So I spent time with a company called Liarbird AI basically recreating my voice to see if I could con my cousin into giving me her credit card number. And I was completely |
| 0:56.4 | unsuccessful, but only because my AI voice sounded too tired. I remember that. I remember that. |
| 1:05.8 | I mean, it was funny because we, at the time, you know, it took a lot of voice. It took a lot. |
| 1:10.1 | Like, I basically had to talk for hours. |
| 1:13.3 | But I remember we had to literally press buttons that were associated with words while we were talking to your cousins. |
| 1:19.5 | So it was like, hello, this is Kara speaking, but in your voice. |
| 1:22.8 | It was a weird impromptu thing because she actually called me. |
| 1:27.6 | And so we were like, let's take this as an opportunity to be out of context and ask her a question to see if she just believes that she's talking to me. |
| 1:37.4 | And for a while, she believed that she was talking to me. |
| 1:40.0 | It was pretty cool. |
| 1:41.0 | Like, will my cousin believe that she's talking to me as AI me? Which she did. |
| 1:45.4 | And she did for a little while. And that was 2019. And obviously, the state of the nation has |
| 1:51.0 | improved dramatically since then. In fact, there is a journalist called Evan Ratliff, who did a whole podcast |
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