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The Story: The UK’s Race for Second Place in the Chip Wars

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Tech News, News, Technology

4.31.9K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

This week, Oz talks to Nick McKeown, who is a member of the PM’s Council of Science and Technology, where he advises the British government on the best opportunities for economic growth in the tech sector. And according to Nick, that opportunity is AI Chips. He argues that the UK is in a good position to take second place in the race to design the next generation of AI chips and lays out how the British government can help make that happen.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:18.8

Welcome to Tech Stuff.

0:20.2

I'm Oz Veloshin here with Kara Price. Hi, Kara. Hi, Oz. So I recently talked with a fellow Brit, who reminded me of something that I think you Americans often take for granted. The center of gravity for the tech industry is so much on the west coast of the United States.

0:40.5

You can imagine the whole thing just tipping over into the Pacific Ocean. It's so heavy.

0:45.5

And that's great for California. It's great for Seattle and Washington State. But it's worrying,

0:50.8

and it should be of a great concern to the rest of the world. What is our future? Are we just going to be takers, not makers?

0:56.1

You know, it's really interesting because as an American, like, I rarely imagine what it's

1:01.6

like to be a taker rather than a maker because so much innovation comes from our tech sector,

1:08.7

you know?

1:09.4

That's right. Nick McEwen has seen the story play out from both sides of the Atlantic.

1:14.1

He built rather an impressive roster of credits,

1:17.1

professor of computer science and electrical engineering at Stanford,

1:21.7

Unicorn founder,

1:23.6

and a meaningful claim to having built the internet.

1:28.3

His work formed the basis of Cisco Systems' GSM router,

1:32.3

which at one time made up 75% of the backbone of the internet.

1:36.3

But Nick recently returned to the UK,

1:39.3

and he's become particularly concerned about the fate of Britain's technology sector,

1:44.7

because he, in fact, sits on the Prime Minister's Council on Science and Technology.

1:49.4

Which is like an incredibly powerful position to have.

1:53.3

But I'm also biased because of how much power this US administration handed over to Elon Musk and Doge.

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