Welcome back to the Ransom Tarr Podcast, gang. John Eldridge here in part two of a conversation

with Alan Arnold about creativity, writing, artistry, chasing dreams, but the invitation is out of

intimacy and through intimacy with God.

And we're talking about Alan's new book the story of

with a better way to live love and create on page 119 is one of those moments, Alan, that you talked about the shift to with.

And this one's entitled Take Heart, her entire life, Mia has felt like she didn't quite fit in.

No one shared her interests or understood her dreams. But then she discovers a place where kindred spirits passionately pursue

the very things that make her come alive.

Now her heart is being awakened, and so this is your opportunity.

You're reflecting back on the alleg opportunity. You're reflecting back on the

allegory. You're reflecting back on the narrative. And this is you speaking to the

reader for a moment. You're saying this is exactly what she needs at this stage of

her journey. We can't be fully present to God

or others if our hearts have flatlined. That's why scripture,

Proverse 423 tells us nothing is more important than protecting our hearts.

And you go on to ask the reader, how is your heart doing at this moment?

Are you aware of the things you do each day that either numb or nurture your heart?

If you can't name specific ways you are taking care of your heart, then it's probably in need of attention. Alan, when you your

big hope hope.

The big hope was that it would be a way for people

was that it would be a way for people to see their life in a new way,

to see the invitation that God's given them through their passions and desires

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