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Pass The Mic

The Story of Ann Atwater with Jonathan Wilson Hartgrove

Pass The Mic

The Witness

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2019

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Recently co-host Tyler Burns had the opportunity to watch the forthcoming film Best of Enemies starring Taraji P. Henson and Sam Rockwell. The film chronicles the unlikely relationship between Civil Rights activist Ann Atwater and KKK leader C.P. Ellis. After watching the film, Tyler had mixed feelings about its framework and messaging. He decided to get to the bottom of Ann Atwater’s life by talking to someone who knew her personally. Following the controversial Best Picture Oscar win of the movie Green Book, we felt it would be helpful to have a deeper conversation about the framing of these stories. Listen as we have a discussion with Jonathan Wilson Hartgrove about the real story of Ann Atwater. Jonathan is the Director of The School for Conversion, an education center that Ann Atwater devoted her time to as a freedom teacher, mentoring young activists on the principles of freedom organizing for change. You might have heard of Jonathan’s name in connection with the Reverend Dr. William Barber. He worked with Dr. Barber on the reclamation of Poor People’s Campaign, and co-authored a book with him called “The Third Reconstruction”. Jonathan’s most recent book is entitled “Reconstructing the Gospel: Finding Freedom from Slaveholder Religion”. For more about our reaction to Green Book, check out Ally Henny’s reaction on our website: http://thewitnessbcc.com/did-green-book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Greetings and God bless. Welcome to another episode of Pass the Mike. I'm your host

0:04.0

Tyler Burns and I wanted to come to you before we kick off this episode to give some framing

0:08.6

for today's conversation. Now I have to admit to you guys and some of you already know this but I am a fan of award shows

0:16.4

While live tweeting our reactions to these decisions has enhanced the award show experience. I have to tell you even before social media was a thing,

0:24.6

I just love sitting down and watching people receive recognition,

0:29.4

whether it was film, music, sports, it didn't matter.

0:32.2

And I don't know why.

0:33.6

Maybe it's because these events so often

0:35.8

take on this sporting element of rooting for your favorites.

0:40.3

Or maybe it's that I appreciate people receiving well-deserved acknowledgement for their labor and their creativity.

0:46.6

But whatever it is, any awards show that comes on is something I usually sit down and watch.

0:52.0

I don't know what it is. But there's a double-edged sword to these

0:55.2

award shows. While they can give much deserved acknowledgement to creatives who have earned these honors,

1:00.9

they can also stir up inevitable controversy.

1:04.4

Last week at the Academy Awards, the most prestigious award show in the film industry,

1:09.6

they gave out their highest award, picture to the movie Green Book.

1:16.3

And the Oscar goes to Greenbook.

1:23.0

Greenbook is a film that documents the African-American classical and jazz pianist Don Shirley, played

1:28.0

by Meher Shalah Ali, an Italian American bouncer Tony Valolonga played by Vigo Mortenson, who served as Shirley's

1:35.3

driver and bodyguard.

1:37.7

Now according to the film, the two men developed an unlikely friendship through this dangerous

1:42.3

journey to concert stops in the racist American

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