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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

The Story Behind Reality TV's Biggest Villain: Did Spencer Pratt Regret His Actions?

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Relationships, Society & Culture, Leisure

4.7 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

What really happened to Spencer Pratt after The Hills - and why has so much of the story never been told? Known as one of reality TV’s most controversial figures, Spencer opens up about the real story behind The Hills, his relationship with Heidi Montag, and the hidden cost of Hollywood. He reflects on how "playing the villain" became personal, and shares the truth about their nearly 20-year relationship, surviving the pressure of fame, paparazzi, and public hatred. Spencer also discusses losing his home, confronting his identity, and how fame nearly destroyed him. This is the unfiltered conversation you've never heard before.Spencer Pratt, We Need To Talk (00:00) Intro (02:55) Spencer’s Upbringing in Los Angeles (04:37) Spencer’s Soccer Career as a Teenager (06:55) Famous Classmates and Life on Film Sets (11:38) How Spencer’s Soccer Career Came to an End (13:34) Spencer’s Sense of Purpose (15:03) How Spencer Joined The Hills (19:52) The Legacy of The Hills and Its Influence on Reality TV (24:35) Spencer’s Fame at the Height of The Hills (30:46) How and Why The Hills Came to an End (33:50) Spencer’s Role in the Kardashians’ Success (36:07) Life After The Hills Ended (42:08) Does Spencer Have Any Regrets About The Hills? (47:32) Shopify Ad (48:44) Spencer Describes His Relationship With Heidi (53:32) Did Spencer Want to Be a Father? (56:25) What Changed Spencer’s View on Fatherhood (58:29) Reflecting on the LA Fires One Year After Losing His Home (01:00:01) The Day Spencer’s House Burned Down (01:11:39) How the Fire Impacted Spencer and His Family (01:14:15) How the Fires Led to Spencer’s LA Mayoral Campaign (01:24:28) Spencer’s First Day as LA Mayor (01:26:37) Spencer’s Response to His Detractors (01:27:25) Who Spencer Voted for in the Last Presidential Election (01:33:14) What Readers Will Learn From Spencer’s Autobiography (01:35:15) Most Memorable Conversation (01:36:17) Is Spencer Proud of Himself Today? (01:38:54) Paul’s Takeaways Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk  https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Follow Spencer here: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spencerpratt/?hl=en The Guy You Love To Hate: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Guy-You-Loved-Hate-Confessions/dp/1668211769 Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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house burn to the ground on the security cameras. Today is where your book begins.

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Growing up around just A-list movie stars,

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I wanted to be rich Jonah Hill.

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It was in my class with Kate Hutsons, the Jack Black.

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How in the world do you then get on the hills?

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Oh my God, really.

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You're making me cry right now.

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Stephanie, you're making yourself grow.

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