Hi everyone. Welcome to the A6 and Z podcast. I'm Sonal. And today I'm so excited since we finally have

our interview, the A6 and Z podcast way of co-founder Ben Horowitz on his new and best-selling book,

What You Do is Who You Are, How to Create Your Business Culture, the Conversation, which took

place recently at the Computer History Museum between me and Ben, probes on the themes of

business, culture, and tech from the book and beyond, with lots of nuanced discussion on

everything from common tropes, such as reality distortion fields, fake it till you make it, Silicon

Valley folklore, whether companies and people can change, diversity and inclusion, and so on,

all told through some tough stories. On that note,

just a note for listeners with kids in the car, that this podcast talks about historical themes

with various mentions of violence. Finally, we try to share some practical advice throughout,

for both leaders and even for employees, going through cultural cultural change and crowdsource questions from our

audience as well that are answered at the end. You can read more about and order the book at

a6.c.com slash what you do. 100% of the proceeds will go to anti-recidivism, helping people get out of

jail, stay out of jail, and towards making Haiti great again. We're here to talk about Ben's

best-selling new book, what you do is who you are, which is really about culture. And we all

know it's important, but no one really tells you how to shape it, how to set it, even how to

fix it when things go wrong. And what I love about Ben is he's not only a builder, but a bridger

of cultures.

And that's why it's so significant that we're sitting here at the computer history museum,

because this represents the heart of Silicon Valley, which itself has been going through lots of cultural change.

And so the first question I want to ask you, Ben, is a very obvious straightforward question to actually define culture.

Because you say it's not corporate values,

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