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Welcome to another Stop Burning Stuff podcast with me, Quentin Wilson and I am really really pleased and proud to have as our guest today a

campaigner for clean air who has had an international influence.

Please welcome Rosamond Adu Kisey Deborah,

CBE, who is the Breathe Life Ambassador

for the World Health Organization, who is also the founder of the Ella-Reberta Family Foundation,

a World Health Organization advocate for health and clean air quality. So, Desmond, tell us your story about your

daughter Ella who is the first person to have air pollution diagnosed as a cause of death.

Ella Roberto lived, born lived and died in Lewisham.

She was born last 28 months of her life that we are really interested in because up until that point she was

incredibly healthy. She developed a severe and rare form of asthma, life-threatening asthma and is very important to put that because asthma is incredibly

common these days. Ella's was rare and severe and uncontrollable. During her lifetime we looked for courses but one of the things

we didn't look at as we now know is the environmental cause.

She died of respiratory failure,

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