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Explain It to Me

The stimulus failure

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Society & Culture, Education, News

4.48K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Ezra and Matt on Trump's pseudo-federalism and Pelosi's strange aversion to automatic stabilizers. Resources: "Nancy Pelosi says Democrats opted against putting federal aid on autopilot in their $3 trillion coronavirus spending package to avoid amplifying sticker shock" by Joseph Zeballos-Roig, Business Insider "Trump Rewrites the Book on Emergencies" by Christopher DeMuth, WSJ "Federalism Is an Asset" by Danielle Allen, Anne-Marie Slaughter, Josh Simons, & Carmel Shachar, Harvard References: Recession Ready: Fiscal Policies to Stabilize the American Economy, The Hamilton Project Fix recessions by giving people money - The Weeds, featuring Claudia Sahm The case for subsidized jobs - The Weeds, featuring Indi Dutta-Gupta Hosts: Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Senior correspondent, Vox Ezra Klein (@ezraklein), Editor-at-large, Vox Credits: Jeff Geld, (@jeff_geld), Editor and Producer The Weeds is a Vox Media Podcast Network production Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts About Vox Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Facebook group: The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Many years in appropriator and in leadership,

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we did not realize, because we have never spoken in these big terms before,

0:31.0

if you have a stabilizer in it that something will happen next January

0:36.0

and then you'll have $400,500 billion worth of unemployment checks going out,

0:41.0

it counts in the bill today.

0:57.0

Hello, welcome to another episode of the Weeds on the Box Media Podcast Network.

1:00.0

I'm Matthew Eglaceus here today with Ezra Klein.

1:03.0

We're going to talk about federalism in the coronavirus era.

1:07.0

But first, I think we wanted to talk about the fiscal stimulus measures that are or not being considered in Congress.

1:16.0

It's very refreshing to me personally to see this topic,

1:21.0

because unlike virology, it's something I know like a lot about,

1:25.0

I've covered for years, feel very firm on,

1:29.0

and there's a lot going on, right?

1:31.0

So how does Democrats put out this kind of big proposal?

1:34.0

It's a $3 trillion thing.

1:36.0

It involves extending the bonus unemployment insurance.

1:39.0

It involves a lot of money for state and local governments.

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