You spent your entire life in the NBA the worst possible messenger.

People are going to think if Elton was really so unhappy, why didn't he just leave?

With the stain on me from this team's reputation.

Where was I going to go?

You can understand that.

What's up, kiddos, you're listening to Let's Talk Clipped. Ramona Shelburne isn't able to host today's episode so I will be taking over. My name is

Clinton Yates, I'm the host of ESPN Daily and I'm a huge fan of the series

so I'm excited to dig in. Today we're going to talk about the fourth episode of

the series Winning Ugly.

This flashes back to a few different moments in the lives of our characters.

First, a young Doc Rivers playing for the clippers is distraught after LA police brutally beat Rodney King.

Later, a young V. DiIano is trying to break into the entertainment industry,

and Shelly Sterling is considering divorce.

My guest today are Kelly O' Coyne who plays Andy Rosa and Kevin

welcome. Thank you for having us appreciate it. Yeah.

To start with it I'll start with you Kevin what interested you most about this particular story?

Just the kind of insight into how Sterling got where he was how everyone found their way to becoming the characters they were.

So that was kind of the... found their way to becoming the characters they were.

So that was kind of the inciting incident of curiosity for me.

I also like the idea that we were gonna break the aesthetic of the show

and had so much freedom to create this thing that was completely outside the

vernacular of the way we were shooting the show.

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