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The state of UK investment – Catherine Lenson, COO, Phoenix Court

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Technology, Entrepreneur, Tech, Business, Hr, Sales, Uktech, Investing, Funding, Entrepreneurship, Marketing

56 Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Catherine Lenson, chief operating officer of Phoenix Court, discusses why well-defined corporate and investment culture supports a cohesive strategy, how different stages of investment come with drastically different needs and why sticking with a founder long-term is both rewarding and satisfying. 

Phoenix Court is a venture capital firm that backs businesses from the seed stage all the way through to IPO. Lenson has worked across the investment industry, having held roles at firms including UBS and SoftBank. 

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You cannot invest early enough in your culture. And conversely, things that you do wrong in your

0:13.1

culture in the early days, mistakes that you make, things that you let slide in your culture

0:17.2

in the early days are very, very difficult to fix as you scale.

0:23.6

And actually, if you look at the talent coming out of UK and European universities,

0:28.6

it is world beating.

0:34.6

How can we make sure that the huge advances we're seeing in AI have a positive impact on

0:39.8

neighborhoods like Summers Town and that it's not just a tool which people who work in firms

0:45.1

like mine care about?

0:53.2

From the first-time founders to the funds that back them, innovation needs different.

0:58.2

Our episode partner, HSBC Innovation Banking, is proud to accelerate growth for tech and life science

1:04.6

businesses, creating meaningful connections and opening up a world of opportunity for entrepreneurs

1:10.2

and investors alike.

1:12.4

Discover more at www. hsbc Innovationbanking.com slash EN-GB.

1:23.4

Hello and welcome to the UKTM podcast, a weekly chat with the movers and shakers of the UK tech industry and the destination for all things UK tech related.

1:35.6

I'm your host, Jane Wakefield, and today I'm joined by Catherine Lenson, the chief operating officer at Phoenix Court, a venture capital firm backing firms from Seed all the

1:46.9

way through to IPO. Welcome, Catherine. Thanks so much. Great to be here. Now, before we get

1:52.6

chatting about Phoenix Courts, I couldn't help but notice that previously you worked at SoftBank,

1:58.6

which for those who don't know is an absolutely massive Japanese

2:01.5

multinational investment firm with some very big name investments, including Nvidia,

2:06.5

bite darts and Uber. And I was just fascinated to learn a little bit about what it was like

2:12.3

to work for such a company compared to the company you're working with now.

2:17.2

Yes, I always joke that I've moved over my career from the very large public markets.

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