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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

The State of Hollywood with Matt Belloni (‘The Town’)

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Lemonada Media

Society & Culture, Film Interviews, Tv & Film

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2023

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

For nearly two decades, Matt Belloni (The Town) has been observing and writing about Hollywood. He joins us today to unpack the latest on the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes.

After a review of TIFF 2023 (6:50), Belloni dives into Drew Barrymore and Bill Maher’s decisions to return to their talk shows without WGA writers (10:45), the vital issues the guild is fighting for (19:20), and how their negotiations have progressed over the past twenty weeks (23:10). Then, we discuss the history of the Netflix business model (25:05), the state of streaming today (29:50), and Belloni’s fourteen years at The Hollywood Reporter (35:04).

On the back-half, we talk about his path from entertainment law to journalism (41:29), his unique approach to reporting at Puck (44:10), and his predictions for the end of the strikes (50:05). Before we leave, we sit with recent messaging from SAG-AFTRA President Fran Drescher (57:15), the potential fragmentation within the AMPTP (1:03:00), and to close, Matt's hope for the future of Hollywood (1:08:12).

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0:00.0

Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm San Frigoso. Welcome to the show. Today I am joined by reporter and podcaster Matt Bellany. He's the author of Puck's flagship

0:49.0

newsletter, What I'm Hearing, where he covers the real inside conversation about money and power in

0:56.0

Hollywood. He also does this on his excellent podcast, The Town, which comes from Puck and

1:02.1

the Ringer.

1:03.2

Bellony was formerly an entertainment attorney before pivoting to journalism, first

1:08.7

writing an Esquire, then the Hollywood reporter, where he eventually became the editorial director.

1:15.1

But since he left the reporter back in 2020, he's become something of a trusted

1:20.3

Hollywood insider, especially throughout this dual labor strike over the summer

1:25.6

between the writers, actors, and the studios,

1:28.6

where a deal has yet to be made between the respective guilds and the AMPTP, which includes Amazon, Apple, Netflix,

1:37.6

NBC Universal, Warner Bros Discovery, Disney, Paramount, and Sony.

1:43.5

And so as we move into Fal, without a clear deal in sight,

1:48.4

I wanted to have Matt on to offer his clear-headed,

1:51.8

no bullshit perspective on the state of play, which includes the negotiations

1:56.4

themselves, the demands from guilds that have yet to be met by the studios, and why I think

2:01.8

this all matters outside of Hollywood.

2:05.0

Because a lot of the press I've read during these strikes seems to be tailored to people within the entertainment industry.

2:12.0

In fact, in conversations I've had with people, you know, throughout this summer,

2:16.0

people who don't work and film and television,

2:20.0

the question I often get is,

2:22.0

why should I care about this?

2:24.0

Why does this matter to me?

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