Welcome back to Gabby with Gibb.

I'm your host, Gibson Johns, and today we have an episode that we do once a quarter on this show with a different guest every time.

I invite someone on who just really knows their stuff when it comes to Housewives, and we go through each of the Real Housewives franchises.

And just like assess where they are, how things are going, what we're liking, what we're not liking, what we're looking forward to, what we're concerned about, changes that we'd make, et cetera, et cetera. So today I invited on Lewis Pitesman and we did exactly that, agreeing on a lot, but also disagreeing on some things too. Lewis has been on the show before

and he is a great return guest. He brought some amazing ideas to the table and I'm really excited

for you guys to hear our conversation. He's also written a lot about the Housewives over the

years. So go check out his articles. Go follow him on Twitter and blue sky and threads or wherever

he posts his stuff because he does great work and he has some

great insights into housewives. I don't feel like there's that much else for we to discuss up top

here today. So let's just get into it. Keep listening for my state of every real housewives

franchise with Lewis Pitesman. And please make sure to rate review and subscribe to Gabbing with

Gibb. Wherever you're listening to this right now. We'll be back with one more episode this week on friday i want a gab i want to gab.

All right, today we're gab with Lewis Pitesman, who was a return guest to the show.

He was previously on to talk all about Alexis Bellino's regrettable comeback to the Real Housewives of Orange County.

And today we're very much broadening the scope of our conversation. He's here for our quarterly state of every Real Housewives franchise episode.

Lewis, happy New Year. How are you? Happy New Year. I am fine. I am, you know, adjusting to 2025,

which is a nightmare so far.

Yeah. What a year. Yeah. No, it's, it's, uh, or like, what, a week and a half in? We've crammed a lot into it. So yeah, no, I'm just, just dealing with that. Trying to be human and watching Bravo. I'm with you. Yeah. I'm, I feel like, honestly, ever since the election, I've just been leading into escapism for myself. And that's just, I think you posted like disassociating. It's like compartmentalizing, disassociating, whoever you want to call it. That's, and we have a lot to work with right now in terms of in that column. So I'm, I'm good with that. No, I know. And we have, yeah, I haven't watched traders. Yeah, I don't know if't know when they drop the new episodes, but, yeah, three of them. So plenty of distraction content, which is very needed right now. So today what we're going to do is we're going to go through all of the active eight Real Housewives franchises. Every other time I've done this, because I started the show a year, a little bit over a year ago, we've had nine. So we're not going to be talking about Dubai today, which got, quote-unquote, put on pause after two seasons. I kind of, I mean, I think that some of the cast members are like fighting on Twitter over whether it's on pause or actually canceled. I don't think it's, to me, it's neither here nor there about. Yeah, no, I don't know if anyone... You want to slap on it, but...

I don't know if anyone beyond those cast members care,

whether it's canceled or, you know, indefinitely postponed.

I do think it's funny that, like, that a phrase that was used to kind of calm

Durinda down has become the standard terminology for Bravo,

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