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podcast today's guest is Jack Clark the policy director of open AI. In this

conversation we discuss the state of artificial intelligence,

the geopolitics of the technology and what monks and elephants may have to do with AI.

It's really good to have Jack here. Hi Jack.

Hi, how you doing?

I'm well, did I pronounce your name correctly?

You did.

It's a simple one to pronounce actually.

So, J-A-C-K Clark.

I'm also a famous baseball player so not that one

perfect well we're going to talk today about artificial intelligence your policy

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