So we've been through all of these tech waves and we've learned how to have this discussion in a way that for the United States interest balances these two things.

And if we're going to make a departure from a posture that was developed from 40 years, you better have a pretty damn good reason.

Today, a new frontier of scientific discovery lies before us.

You can't sometimes judge a book by its cover.

And I think this is a strong start.

The conversation around AI regulation in the U.S. has changed dramatically. Just a year ago,

the loudest voices were calling to pause or shut down open source AI. Today, the U.S. is pushing

to lead the global race. So what changed? And what does it mean for innovation, competition,

and the future of open source?

I'm joined by A16Z general partners Martin Casado and Anjane Midha to unpack the new AI action plan,

the politics behind it, and the implications for builders and policymakers alike. Let's get into it.

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Okay, so we're talking a week or two after the action plan has been announced. Looks like we've come a long way. Yeah. You guys have been on the front lines for years now in this discourse fighting to make this possible. Why don't we trace where we've been so that we could then understand how we got here and where we're up going? I mean, under the Biden administration, we had the executive order, which was basically the opposite of what we're seeing today.

I mean, it was trying to limit innovation.

It was doing a bunch of fear mongering.

But to me, what was even more striking was not regulators being regulators.

You'd expect that.

But if you remember a hunch, and this is why we got involved, is you'd have these politicians, you know, making recommendations, which is fine, you'd expect that, but nobody was saying anything.

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