Welcome to another weekend bonus episode of the Tech Mem Right Home. I'm Brian McCullough.

The Vox slash Recode family has a new podcast, Land of the Giants, and it looks at all of the

giants of the tech industry and how they got that way. Today we're going to talk to

Jason Del Rey, the voice behind the first season of this podcast, which focuses on Amazon.

But look, I've wanted to get someone on the show to talk Turkey to me about Amazon for a while now because they're at

this weird place where maybe they're the most powerful tech company in the land

at the moment and what does that mean for them or for us?

Jason Del Rey is the perfect person to ask.

By the way, my thanks to the Vox team for generously hosting this recording in their studios.

So Amazon's basically been your beat for like you were saying six years.

Yeah. Like it not you, commerce generally right but pretty much years.

Commerce generally, right, but pretty much Amazon.

There's enough story to cover there.

Well, yeah, I mean, I like to say I cover sort of e-commerce and future retail broadly but over the years for

obvious reasons Amazon has taken up more and more of my both output and mind for better or worse.

So I said I have been meaning to have you come on for a while now because I've wanted to talk to someone that follows Amazon closely because I have this sense it just feels to me

not following them closely that they're different all the sudden. Like it's not, Amazon's clearly always been an aggressive company.

Yeah. Ask anyone that competes with them in retail.

But it feels different like they're almost in a move fast and break things sort of sense and there's like an arrogance and like they're not afraid of controversial things

So I'm thinking of things like they're willing to pick fights with like the Googles of the world.

They're willing to do the facial recognition stuff and not back down from it.

The ring stuff with the police and stuff like that.

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