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But the real value in this AI technology is when we allow it to connect the things on its own.

And I think in 2025 is when all the experiments are going to start.

People or businesses or entrepreneurs are going to give access to that fundamental

operating system layer.

And then we'll either have really good things happen or really bad things happen.

Welcome to Geekwire. I'm Geekwire co-founder Todd Bishop. We are coming to you from Seattle, where we get to report each day on what's happening around us in business, technology, and innovation. What happens here matters everywhere. And every

week on this show, we get to talk about some of the most interesting stories and trends in the news.

It is our first show of 2025. And I am excited to welcome our first guest of the year, Patrick

Houston.

He is the entrepreneur and software developer behind a plug-in and really an app called Ghost Rider AI.

Patrick, it's great to have you here.

Oh, I'm so excited to be here.

I think this is my fourth time doing this with you.

Am I the winner?

I think you might be the most frequent recurring guest.

Yes.

And Patrick, it's in part because you're doing some interesting things, but you also have an interesting perspective on the industry because of your experience and also because of

what you're doing now in the realm of AI. So let's just start there.

Okay. For people who have not heard our past conversations, can you give us what Ghost Rider is in a

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