The Stakes: Texas vs. California
The American Mind
The Claremont Institute
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 13 September 2021
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
In this edition of The Stakes, Michael Anton, lecturer in politics and research fellow at Hillsdale College’s Kirby Center, and a Claremont senior fellow, is joined by Matt Peterson, founding editor of The American Mind. The two discuss the massive and widening rift between California and Texas, both as individual states and as standard-bearers for their respective sides of the aisle. In the coming “big sort,” the question will be: which state is better for everyday Americans?
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome once again to The Stakes, an ongoing monthly podcast hosted by Claremont Senior |
| 0:29.9 | Fellow and Lecturer and Research Fellow at the Graduate School of Government at Hillsdale |
| 0:35.6 | College's Kirby Center in Washington, DC, Michael Anton. Mike brings on guests to talk |
| 0:40.5 | about the state of current America and the stakes of our current political and intellectual |
| 0:46.4 | crisis. His guest this week is our own Matthew Peterson vice president of education here at |
| 0:52.3 | Claremont Institute and of course founding editor of the American Mind. They're discussing |
| 0:57.4 | this recent piece that Mike wrote for the Claremont Review books. He's reviewing a book on |
| 1:03.4 | Texas versus California and they discuss Matt a long time resident of California, although |
| 1:09.9 | it was not a born year, but Matt has just moved his family to Dallas and Matt is very involved |
| 1:15.3 | in the political and intellectual scene and conservative scene around media and tech and politics |
| 1:21.8 | in Dallas. It's part of the reason he moved there and working on some side projects. So Matt has a |
| 1:26.6 | unique perspective. Matt also worked for a long time on sort of local government in California, |
| 1:32.1 | among other things on local government corruption in California. Mike Anton of course was born and raised |
| 1:38.0 | in California in the Bay Area and so it's a nice opportunity for both those men to talk about |
| 1:45.1 | both their experience but also Mike's argument and the future of Texas and California. So enjoy. |
| 1:52.7 | Well, thank you Ryan. So my latest CRB review, I try to do something for the magazine in |
| 1:59.4 | every issue and oftentimes I don't make it because I get busy or so that but I did this time and |
| 2:03.9 | this was one of the ones you know sometimes you get you get to pick your own idea and sometimes |
| 2:09.1 | you get assigned by editors and good writers you know play along that is to say you gotta give |
| 2:14.9 | a little to get a little so sometimes I want to do a some crazy thing and I much more likely |
| 2:18.6 | to get away with it if when the editor comes to me and says hey will you do this if I |
| 2:22.4 | gamely say yes. So Charles Kessler asked me to review a book called Texas versus California. |
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